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By: debbie lynn elias<\/strong><\/p>\n

Writer\/Director Nicole Gomez Fisher is a new voice on the cinematic horizon.\u00a0 With a background as an actress and stand-up comedienne, Gomez-Fisher now jumps behind the camera, making her feature film debut with the delightful, and delightfully funny, SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES.<\/p>\n

A film that mirrors the tones of Moonstruck<\/em> and City Island<\/em> filled with embraceable characters and relatable familial situations that give a feeling of Ugly Betty<\/em> for the big screen, FISHES boasts a stand-out cast with everyone from Priscilla Lopez and Gina Rodriguez to Ana Ortiz and Steven Strait, not to mention a breakout performance from the adorable Misha Seo, who makes her feature acting debut.<\/p>\n

SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES is the story of Rodriguez-Fish family.\u00a0 30-something Alexis is divorced and broke and on her own, trying to make ends meet with every job imaginable from playing a walking meatball sandwich to working as a phone sex girl.\u00a0 Her older sister Kayla still lives at home with their mother Estella and Jewish doctor father, Leonard.\u00a0 Obsessed with comic books, Kayla refuses to grow up and still thinks a fun night out is getting drunk, dancing and puking on the nearest object.<\/p>\n

Luckily for Alexis, she has managed to stay away from the Latino-Jewish mother\u2019s guilt of Estella and only has to deal with family when she chooses to answer her phone.\u00a0 But all that is about to change when Alexis is summoned home for the funeral of a distant aunt, putting her in the direct line of fire with her mother and her mother\u2019s wishes for her daughter.\u00a0 And as if mom isn\u2019t enough, Kayla gets in on the action pushing Alexis to go back to doing what she loved before her marriage – party planning and, uh, dating.\u00a0 But is a super-hero themed Bat Mitzvah for a 12 year old adopted Asian girl the way to do it?<\/p>\n

Filled with laughter and love, SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES had its premiere Friday night at the LA Latino International Film Festival in Hollywood.\u00a0 Hours before she walked the red carpet, I spoke by phone with the exuberant and funny, Nicole Gomez Fisher about writing, directing, streaking mascara and, of course, FISHES.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

So how excited are you with the festival and the film?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Incredibly.\u00a0 This is just such a huge opportunity for us.\u00a0 It just couldn\u2019t come at a better time and especially at a better location.\u00a0 I\u2019m just completely honored to have been accepted and invited to be in the festival.<\/p>\n

You have this film constructed so well in terms of your emotional beats and your comedic beats that you pulled me in at the very start.\u00a0 Then things start unfolding and the draw deepens.\u00a0 Granted, it helps that Ana Ortiz is there to give the film this feel like a big screen Ugly Betty<\/em>.\u00a0 That\u2019s what I kept thinking as I was watching FISHES which, for me, is a good thing as I love that show beyond belief.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That\u2019s so funny.\u00a0 I\u2019ve heard that before and I feel the same way!\u00a0 I actually appreciate that.\u00a0 When we were looking for actresses to fill that role [of sister Kayla], there were so many names thrown at me and when they said Ana [Ortiz], I thought, \u201cUck.\u00a0 That\u2019s a long shot.\u201d\u00a0 But then she read the script and she just connected with it.\u00a0 I\u2019m thrilled to have her on board because she really adds an element that was really needed.<\/p>\n

People forget, and now with Devious Maids <\/em>doing do well on cable, this is a side of Ortiz where she really gets to shine.\u00a0 She\u2019s not as tempered and she also doesn\u2019t have the real snarky sarcasm that she can bring to something.\u00a0 This is out and out, slapstick, Lucille Ball funny.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[laughing] Ooooh.\u00a0 I really wish I could meet you!\u00a0 That\u2019s such a huge compliment.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

Your casting is impeccable.\u00a0 And Priscilla Lopez [as Estella]- well, that is just ideal.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Interestingly enough, I went to see In the Heights <\/em>with my husband years ago when I started writing the script.\u00a0 First thing I said to him, and I had known about her for years, I saw her in A Chorus Line <\/em>years and years ago, and I remember turning to him and I was like, \u201cIf I ever finish the script and we ever get funding, that is the only person that can play this role [the mother].\u201d\u00a0 When I got casting directors on board, that was the first thing I said and she was the first one to sign on. She, to me, just epitomizes who this character is.<\/p>\n

The way you\u2019ve integrated Judaism, the ethnic aspects with the little Asian girl and her bimbo blonde botoxed mother. . .All these characters are something that everybody knows; we all know people like this.\u00a0 We all know people in this huge melting pot of a viewing audience.<\/strong><\/p>\n

All characters that I\u2019m familiar with [giggling].\u00a0 It\u2019s fantastic that you said that.\u00a0 Because, in all honesty,\u00a0 everybody wants to pigeonhole it.\u00a0 It has to be either a Latino film or it has to be a Jewish film and truth be told, it\u2019s a universal film.\u00a0 When I wrote it, I was just writing it from my point of view.\u00a0 Obviously I have a mixed background and that lends itself to a lot of comedy but at the same time I really wanted this to be a film that people could just relate to because they could understand the mother-daughter conflict, they could understand the humor of the culture and being diverse because it is 2013 and there\u2019s a thousand of us out there.\u00a0 It\u2019s just a new voice as far as I see it.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve got the Beverly Hills blonde bimbette, Park Avenue New York woman, you\u2019ve got the botox jokes in there that everybody can relate to, but the mother-daughter and the sister conflicts, and the mother constantly putting Alexis down – \u201cGetting a little bloated in the tummy!\u201d, \u201cYou\u2019re going to wear that?\u201d\u00a0 – It\u2019s so hysterical.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you.\u00a0 I\u2019m glad that you were able to relate to it.\u00a0 I\u2019m glad that you really enjoyed it.\u00a0 It\u2019s a hard sell.\u00a0 It\u2019s one of those things where people want to know it, understand it and walk out with one sort of emotion.\u00a0 But with this, to me, you want to talk about a melting pot!\u00a0 I think it\u2019s a melting pot of emotions as well.\u00a0 So many little things that go on and the one thing that is really important to me is that everybody understand that it\u2019s really a slice of life film; it\u2019s not meant to be this really huge [popcorn flick].\u00a0 It\u2019s not Fast & Furious.\u00a0 It\u2019s more of a Moonstruck<\/em>. . . It\u2019s one of my favorite films.\u00a0 And My Big Fat Greek Wedding<\/em>. [SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES] is the kind of film that should be quite relateable as far as family dynamics go.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

Very much so.\u00a0 The minute I see Alexis and her mother going at it with comments and snarkiness and the fact that mom never has a good thing to say to her daughter and something is always wrong with the daughter and I\u2019m thinking, \u201cOh yea.\u00a0 Been there.\u201d\u00a0 I know that person.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[laughing] What I find quite interesting is that I was very very very cautious about [this] – I didn\u2019t want the mother character to come across as super cruel and mean because the truth is, having had the similarities to my own mother, she\u2019s the same exact way but she truly truly truly believes that what she says and does is for the benefit of her children.\u00a0 She doesn\u2019t see her voice as being cruel and mean.\u00a0 It simply is, this is the way it has to be or should be, and that\u2019s why chooses world like \u201cswollen\u201d and not \u201cfat\u201d.\u00a0 To her, that\u2019s the kind way of saying the wrong thing.\u00a0 I really wanted to make sure that I stayed away from making her sort of like the mother in Real Women Have Curves.\u00a0 The mother in that was really cruel.\u00a0 I didn\u2019t want that.\u00a0 That\u2019s why there\u2019s the one mention of \u201cI bought her Real Women Have Curves but she hasn\u2019t watched it.\u201d\u00a0 That was the parallel right there.\u00a0 And what I find is that after the film everyone comes up to me and tells me how much they love Priscilla\u2019s character.\u00a0 I think it\u2019s so interesting.<\/p>\n

I think everybody, be it females, males, we all see part of her in our own mothers.\u00a0 To some extent, the characteristics and comments are there.\u00a0 The facial expression and the tonal elocution that Priscilla delivers the dialogue in – we\u2019ve all heard that tone.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Right.\u00a0 Absolutely. [laughing]\u00a0 One of the things that I was directing Priscilla on – she was actually struggling a little bit about not coming across too harsh as well.\u00a0 So we just sat down and I said to her, \u201cWhen you say the words and when you speak them, you have to be very clear that it\u2019s as if you\u2019re saying \u2018You look beautiful today.\u2019\u00a0 That\u2019s how she sees it.\u00a0 There\u2019s nothing harsh or cruel.\u201d\u00a0 Plus, when we were shooting her in that kitchen scene, I wanted to portray a woman who really was in her own image; she sits a certain way, she\u2019s very clean and perfect even in her pajamas.\u00a0 Everything was very pristine.\u00a0 There\u2019s an agenda to everything.\u00a0 I hope that came across.<\/p>\n

I think it definitely did.\u00a0 Another telling and defining scene that epitomizes it and is the cherry on top is with Priscilla\u2019s character is that after mom has finally told Alexis that she looks beautiful, she goes and tries to fuss with her hair, Alexis bats her off, and they\u2019re in the bathroom at the mirror and then the mother turns to the mirror and with her pinky adjusts a side of the lipstick and pulls her jacket down as if to say, \u201cOkay.\u00a0 Now I\u2019m ready to go out.\u201d\u00a0 That sent me into peels of laughter.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exactly! [laughing] You know what\u2019s so funny?\u00a0 I wanted that scene so badly and my editor and I went back and forth and he was like, \u201cNo, because it doesn\u2019t complete the character.\u00a0 You always want to have the character end on a good note.\u201d\u00a0 And I\u2019m like, \u201cBut this is her.\u00a0 She\u2019s not changing.\u00a0 Not every story has to end with this big resolve at the end.\u00a0 It\u2019s life. People don\u2019t change.\u201d<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

That\u2019s just it.\u00a0 You end this film so hopefully.\u00a0 There\u2019s great hope.\u00a0 And I have to tell you – your cinematographer, Raoul Germain, is brilliant.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got some truly beautiful visuals going on.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you.\u00a0 I would love to tell him that.\u00a0 Thank you.<\/p>\n

That final shot though, with Dominic [Steven Strait] and Alexis and the sunset and they\u2019re sitting on the benches – that\u2019s your money shot of the film.\u00a0 That shot you should screen capture; that should be the still on the one-sheet poster.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Oh God.\u00a0 Thank you, debbie.\u00a0 I wish could put you on speaker phone so everyone in the room could hear.\u00a0 I\u2019ll make a note to self because the poster we have right now is \u201cno bueno\u201d but we had to put something really fast together so it\u2019s an animated shot of the Brooklyn Bridge with pictures of the main characters.\u00a0 We had to really rush the timing to get it ready for the festival.<\/p>\n

I would take that final shot and use as your one-sheet shot.\u00a0 It\u2019s emotion personified, it\u2019s beautiful and there\u2019s great beauty to the emotions that your telling in the way it\u2019s unfolding throughout the film.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Thank you.\u00a0 You\u2019re gonna make me cry.<\/p>\n

Don\u2019t cry.\u00a0 You\u2019ll ruin your own mascara.\u00a0 Then somebody\u2019s mother is gonna have to come and spit on a hankie and wipe your cheek and that will be quite embarrassing at the premiere.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got to \u201cmaintain\u201d there tonight!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Oh no! [laughing] You\u2019re right.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

Were you always intending to direct FISHES or when did you decide, \u201cI\u2019m the one who knows this material.\u00a0 I\u2019m gonna do it.\u201d?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I always wanted to but I just wasn\u2019t sure if I was the right person to do it.\u00a0 The casting director and I had a long conversation about it and he was like, \u201cNo one else should do it but you.\u201d\u00a0 Of course there was a part of me that was, \u201cOh, I don\u2019t know.\u201d\u00a0 But then I thought, \u201cWhy not!\u201d\u00a0 I\u2019ve been acting for years.\u00a0 I work well with other actors.\u00a0 I know what kind of direction I like as an actress.\u00a0 This is my story.\u00a0 Who better to tell it than me.<\/p>\n

Once you decided that you were going to direct, did the visuals start popping up in your head, did you storyboard, did you just shot list?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Truth be told, when I wrote it all the visuals were there.\u00a0 Usually before I could even get a scene on paper, I have to sort of map it through my brain and then once I have a feeling of the tempo and the feel of the room, I already have an image in my head and then I start writing the dialogue.\u00a0 When we came to pre-production we did storyboard.<\/p>\n

When you start having all those visuals in your head, right there, that tells you that you are the one to direct it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

[laughing] That\u2019s true!\u00a0 That\u2019s true!\u00a0 Part of the visuals were me directing.\u00a0 But you never know because it\u2019s a really scary thing because you\u2019re not only putting your story, your writing, but now your directing all on the line.\u00a0 There\u2019s so much about yourself personally that you\u2019re putting out there.\u00a0 Having left the world of acting and stand-up comedy, I felt a lot more comfortable being behind the camera and I thought that maybe putting myself in the director\u2019s chair would actually now be putting myself in the spotlight which I was a little afraid of initially.<\/p>\n

You have nothing to fear about putting yourself in the spotlight.\u00a0 Your stand-up comedy background bodes very well for you because you have that sense of timing; be it the quieter, gentler moments of drama or the comedic laugh-out-loud funny.\u00a0 The whole hiring of Alexis to do the Bat Mitzvah scene was just hysterical.\u00a0 And then you bring in a little Asian girl and just watching, we know this is gonna go over the top with humor, this is beyond funny.\u00a0 Then you add in super hero comic book theme for the Bat Mitzvah – you\u2019re bringing in so many different touchstones in the pop culture zeitgeist.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yea, yea. I hope people appreciate it the way you do.\u00a0 I think the same thing and I feel the same way.\u00a0 Obviously having written it and knowing these characters in and out, I really was hoping that people would have the same reaction and be as touched, finding it as funny and exciting as you are.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

What did you find to be the most challenging aspect from a directorial standpoint of bringing SLEEPING WITH THE FISHES to life?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Putting together a shot list was hard.\u00a0 That was one thing I was not prepared for because I didn\u2019t even know about it.\u00a0 That was something that was difficult but I had such a great team between my DP, Raoul Germain, who you mentioned, and my First AD, Inna Braude, they both had so much experience that when the three of us sat down, they both walked me through it.\u00a0 I think that was really the hardest thing.\u00a0 But honestly, and I hope that if I have another experience I can go through the same thing, I had such an amazing team behind me.\u00a0 We shot in 19 days.\u00a0 It was fast.\u00a0 It was furious.\u00a0 We only went overtime, I believe, one or two days, which is unheard of.\u00a0 Everybody was so on point.\u00a0\u00a0 So, from a director\u2019s standpoint, I had everybody holding my hand, practically.\u00a0 I really felt the support and love.\u00a0 And as far as the actors go, everybody was willing to be a team player.\u00a0 I had a couple of the actors tell me –\u00a0 I guess having been an actress at one point I just knew exactly what I wanted, so when I worded it, it wasn\u2019t really complex, it didn\u2019t come from a director\u2019s book, it was just coming from the guy, coming from the heart and knowing what exactly I wanted them to know about their characters.<\/p>\n

Like with Ana [Ortiz], it was very much, yes you might be living at home and maybe you\u2019re in your early 30’s and you have a real estate but you\u2019re truly truly in an arrested development stage; you\u2019re a child at heart, so just play.\u00a0 Whenever you do anything, everything is coming from a playful point.\u00a0 She said to me, \u201cYou\u2019re so good.\u00a0 I completely understand what you\u2019re saying.\u201d\u00a0 Same thing with Priscilla [Lopez] when she struggling with not trying to be too cruel as the mother.\u00a0 I said to her, \u201cEverytime you say a line, just think of it as really coming from the most genuine, loving maternal place that you can find.\u201d\u00a0 I think overall, as a first time director, I hope I have an opportunity to direct again, but I think I\u2019ve learned a lot along the way.\u00a0 It\u2019s been a long process but tonight\u2019s gonna hopefully be a good pay-off, just at least to show the film to a vast audience and Gina [Rogriguez] has so many of her friends and family coming.\u00a0 It\u2019s gonna be a different side of her though after coming off Filly Brown where she plays a real hard-ass, this is the absolute opposite character.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s one of the beautiful things about the casting that you have. We do get to see this other side of Gina and also, another interesting cast move is Steven Strait as Dominic.\u00a0 I just adored him in City Island<\/em> with Andy Garcia.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That\u2019s where I fell in love with him!\u00a0 I didn\u2019t even know about him prior to.\u00a0 And I saw that movie and I literally bought it the next day and honestly, and I\u2019ve said this people before, it was my template.\u00a0 It was literally the template for me as far as structure and storyline and family dynamic and I wanted that feel.\u00a0 To me, that movie is exactly how I wanted FISHES to be anyway.\u00a0 I wanted the same feel, for the audience to feel like they\u2019re looking into as the audience is looking into the private life of one day or one week of somebody else\u2019s world.<\/p>\n

You definitely have that.\u00a0 You have captured that.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

When I met with [Steven Strait] prior to, we had a meeting before he decided to jump on board, when we got down to talk, the one thing that he loved and that he connected to is that he\u2019s a New York boy, he understood the feeling of the family dynamic and just sort of being that guy who\u2019s trying and working really hard to get somewhere and sort of touched that market and come back down again.\u00a0 There\u2019s such a sense – and I hate using this word – but he\u2019s so grounded and so real an individual and I think he brought that to the role.<\/p>\n

\u201cGrounded\u201d is the applicable word in a film like this when describing certain characters.\u00a0 This is not an over-the-top action film, this is a film about the human dynamic.\u00a0 There has to be grounding if you\u2019re going to get realism and you\u2019ve got to have actors that can be grounded for that purpose.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes!\u00a0 And that was so important.\u00a0 When we were casting, there were so many people on the lead side, most of them were offered.\u00a0 Misha Seo who plays Shari Wasserstein, the Asian girl, it was really really important.\u00a0 I had so many girls that came in that had done Disney shows and had this great resume but to me, I\u2019m all about chemistry and that sense of realism no matter what the movie is.\u00a0 Of course if it\u2019s Fast & Furious<\/em>, we get it. [laughing] But to me it was really important that we understood and that we also believe the relationship between all the characters.<\/p>\n

The problem when you get in so many of the Disney girls that have been doing the Disney family Channel programs, they have this polish to them that is not real.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes! Yes!\u00a0 Exactly.\u00a0 And that to me doesn\u2019t work.\u00a0 It depends on the genre and what you\u2019re looking for but not for a film like this.\u00a0 We had a bunch of young girls come in who were absolutely adorable but what caught my attention with Misha was that when she says the one line, \u201cI just don\u2019t want to have to worry about what my mom is worried about\u201d the night of her\u00a0 party, the way she said it, literally the whole room was crying.\u00a0 It was so touching.\u00a0 You just felt so sorry for her and as soon as she did that, I was sold.\u00a0 This girl gets it.\u00a0 The harshness of the mother; and that\u2019s the parallel to Alexis and Shari.\u00a0 I wanted to draw a parallel to the two girls and in some sense, I see it as Alexis coming to save Shari.\u00a0 She saves her from what she\u2019s experienced with her mother and that\u2019s why she goes in to try and plead her case.<\/p>\n

\"fishes<\/p>\n

Did you have any rehearsal time with the actors?<\/strong><\/p>\n

We did.\u00a0\u00a0 Not a lot though.\u00a0 I seem to remember doing two days of rehearsal.\u00a0 I spent more time with Priscilla and Gina than anyone else.\u00a0 To me, that was obviously the pivotal relationship and obviously the central theme to the movie.\u00a0 Sitting down with them and getting them to understand each other and know each other, and also the timing of their conversation.\u00a0 The dialogue between them was really important.\u00a0 It\u2019s got to be so familiar.\u00a0 This is any day, every day, been there, done that.\u00a0 We went over the very very first scene when [Alexis] comes home, we actually rehearsed that more than anything.\u00a0 That was when the audience was going to see the two of them for the first time and understand why we open with that dream sequence and why Alexis\u2019 subconscious is going in that direction.<\/p>\n

The opening dream sequence is great.\u00a0 The game show host just smacked of Peter Marshall!<\/strong><\/p>\n

That was exactly what I wanted.\u00a0 I have this fascination with game shows by the way, so that\u2019s where that came from.<\/p>\n

Now that you\u2019ve stepped behind the camera, what is the greatest gift that filmmaking itself as a writer\/director gives to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It allows me a voice.\u00a0 When I was acting and doing stand-up comedy, although I had that voice, it was stifling.\u00a0 I was really guarded.\u00a0 A lot of people would tell me what I could talk about, what I couldn\u2019t talk about.\u00a0 I was restricted.\u00a0 I feel like now I have an opportunity to not be restricted and to really just use my voice and my point of view to tell stories that I want to tell that I think people can absolutely relate to, that have a lot of humor and heart, and that\u2019s really important to me.\u00a0 I\u2019m hoping that this is a vehicle.<\/p>\n

You definitely have a voice that I want to hear more of.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Oh, thank you so much.\u00a0 Just so you know, I have another script called Good Egg and it\u2019s an action-comedy, totally on a different level and I\u2019m hoping that will be my next project.<\/p>\n

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