{"id":1499,"date":"2013-08-20T10:01:07","date_gmt":"2013-08-20T17:01:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/moviesharkdeblore.com\/site\/?p=1499"},"modified":"2014-10-12T10:11:10","modified_gmt":"2014-10-12T17:11:10","slug":"robert-luketic-exclusive-11-talking-paranoia-privacy-and-philadelphia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/robert-luketic-exclusive-11-talking-paranoia-privacy-and-philadelphia\/","title":{"rendered":"ROBERT LUKETIC: Exclusive 1:1 Talking PARANOIA, Privacy and Philadelphia"},"content":{"rendered":"

By: debbie lynn elias<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s always a joy to sit down with Robert Luketic and talk movies.\u00a0 One of the best and the brightest in the business, Luketic took everyone by storm with the surprising success of Legally Blonde<\/em> which morphed into a franchise spawning sequels upon sequels on the big screen, small screen, stage and straight to DVD.\u00a0 Following that up with an early Josh Duhamel vehicle, Win A Date with Tad Hamilton!<\/em>, and Jane Fonda\u2019s return to comedic glory in Monster-in-Law<\/em>, Luketic proved to be more than a force to be reckoned with in the rom-com genre.\u00a0 But as we soon saw, with 21<\/em>, the fact-based thriller about MIT students and Vegas card counting starring Kevin Spacey and Jim Sturgess, Luketic was much more than laughs and giggles.<\/p>\n

With PARANOIA, Luketic delivers a one-two punch that is a taut, tense thriller that has one on the edge of their seat from start to finish.\u00a0 Adapted from Joseph Finder\u2019s 2003 best-seller of the same name, PARANOIA also boasts Luketic\u2019s most star-studded and powerhouse case to date with Harrison Ford, Gary Oldman, Richard Dreyfus and Liam Hemsworth going toe-to-toe in a technology driven battle of surveillance and privacy issues that echos the news headlines of today.<\/p>\n

I sat down with Robert Luketic to talk about everything Paranoia, from surveillance technology\u00a0 to casting to Georgio Armani to his love of Philadelphia and of course, the 4000 bottle wine cellar at Arbor Hill Estate.<\/p>\n

Robert, PARANOIA is such a wonderful cat and mouse thriller.\u00a0 I was actually back in Philly when you were filming there last summer and you set the whole town on its ears.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Some people were pissed off when we were shutting down streets.\u00a0 But the other movie before me [that shot in Philadelphia] –\u00a0 they reeaaally upset the residents. . .They still hadn\u2019t paid bills. They were an utter disaster those people.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m sorry you didn\u2019t get to see the 4000 bottle wine cellar at Arbor Hill.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I know!\u00a0 No one ever told us that.\u00a0 Harrison and I love wine.\u00a0 Every night we\u2019d have some.<\/p>\n

I know Harrison loves wine. . . I thought for certain knowing how much he loves wine, that he would have checked out the Arbor Hill wine cellar while you were filming there.\u00a0 That place is an icon in Philadelphia.\u00a0 And the fact that the architect, Rafael Vinoly, is the same one who designed the Kimmel Center that you used for the Wyatt Building.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That\u2019s Gary Oldman\u2019s scenes.\u00a0 Those offices are all up in that thing they built up there.\u00a0 It\u2019s really wild.\u00a0 What a great spot.<\/p>\n

One thing that really stands out with your production design and that is Jock Goddard\u2019s (Harrison Ford) private office in his house.\u00a0 You have the one scene with all the ham radios and the dialogue where Liam\u2019s character of Adam asks, \u201cOh do these work?\u201d\u00a0 And Harrison as Jock gets indignant sputtering, \u201cOf course they work!\u00a0 I built them!\u201d\u00a0 That is so key to this story because all of those ham radios are very old, some of which there are the same models as those in my father\u2019s house who was also a ham radio operator.\u00a0 Important is that some of the ham radios in the film are Heathkit radios which you built yourself.\u00a0 It\u2019s very telling about the character of Jock because it comes \u201cpre-packaged\u201d.\u00a0 You just follow the schematics which is essentially who Jock is.\u00a0 He can build something but he can\u2019t design it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exactly.\u00a0 That\u2019s a great detail that you picked up.\u00a0 Wow! You knew that it was Heathkit?<\/p>\n

Yes.\u00a0 I knew.\u00a0 When Jock says that he \u201cbuilt them\u201d, that solidified an important story point for me when I saw that little Heathkit on screen. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

Bloody good detail there. It\u2019s very good!<\/p>\n

Well, bloody good detail of you to be so meticulous with the detail of your production design!<\/strong><\/p>\n

I had two designers.\u00a0 I had David Brisbin and Melissa Stewart.\u00a0 She\u2019s worked with me on every movie I\u2019ve ever done.\u00a0 She\u2019s just really cool.\u00a0 The art department\u2019s budget was perhaps the smallest of all.<\/strong> If you look at everyone else\u2019s department budget, they had the tiniest one.\u00a0 But they rose to the occasion and we were blessed that we found so many great things in Philadelphia, so many things that were ready that we didn\u2019t have to rebuild or augment.\u00a0 Great spaces, great streets.\u00a0 Great cooperation from the City.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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And great tax credits in Philadelphia, too!<\/strong><\/p>\n

Tax credits, great restaurants.\u00a0 We really, really loved the city.\u00a0 It was a really great place to shoot.\u00a0 There\u2019s a lot of great textures there.\u00a0<\/strong> There\u2019s Downtown, there\u2019s beautiful countryside that\u2019s just within reach of the city, rivers. Very impressive.<\/p>\n

That was one of the reasons why I asked Liam about the history of shooting in Philadelphia for this film in particular.\u00a0 That Center City area on Locust Street where you shot many scenes was part of the original City plan; some of the very streets where the very freedoms of the country began.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I thought that was really genius of you.\u00a0 That was a nice anecdote.\u00a0 And you\u2019re right.\u00a0 The very place where those things that we\u2019re now showing how many years later, 240 years, now all those things that were forged there and are no longer really being honored in a way.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That was also one of the great things with the ham radio equipment because what a lot of people don\u2019t know is that the way it operates is through repeater signals just through radio airwaves.\u00a0 You don\u2019t need satellites.\u00a0 Basically by Jock having those, he was out there listening to people for the past six decades and they never knew it.\u00a0 You turn it on and just flip the dial and cue in on any frequency in the world where there\u2019s chatter.\u00a0 You can just listen.\u00a0 You don\u2019t have to talk.\u00a0 That used to be the standard form of communications for the military.<\/strong><\/p>\n

You can just listen to people?\u00a0 Wow.\u00a0 Probably in the NSA in the early years they probably used that, in fact, they probably still do because they monitor every channel, every everything.<\/p>\n

\"Paranoia<\/p>\n

What is it that attracted you to this project?\u00a0 You look at Legally Blonde<\/em>, which I love beyond belief, and some others, but in comparison, PARANOIA is outside the box.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Legally Blonde <\/em>was my first movie.\u00a0 I fell into that by accident.<\/p>\n

Then you did other rom-coms like\u00a0 Monster-in-Law<\/em> and Win a Date with Tad Hamilton<\/em>!, but then switched up with 21<\/em>.<\/strong><\/p>\n

21<\/em> is more me and PARANOIA is more me; more the real me, more the filmmaker that I thought I was going to be.<\/strong>\u00a0 I just caught up in the whirlwind of romantic comedy.\u00a0 It was a big genre, a very successful genre, when I started in the business.\u00a0 Legally Blonde<\/em> was just in another stratosphere.\u00a0 It became Legally Blonde 2<\/em>, it\u2019s on ice, it\u2019s on stage, Legally Blonde 4 and 5<\/em> straight to DVD [laughing].\u00a0 It\u2019s interesting.\u00a0 Really what attracted me to PARANOIA was just its timeliness.<\/strong>\u00a0 I was starting to just hear about people with the technology to walk past you, stand next to you in line and download the contents of your phone book and photos and whatever else they want to do.\u00a0 It\u2019s called \u201cskimming\u201d.\u00a0 And this data was of value.\u00a0 The person who skimmed Paris Hilton\u2019s phone found nude photographs and was able to make hundreds of thousands of dollars shopping those around town.\u00a0 Information became a commodity.\u00a0 What we do, the trail we leave becomes a commodity.\u00a0 That was really fascinating to me; the specter of that was that something was off.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I read Finder\u2019s book when it first came out in 2003, but with the script adaptation, you really updated it and brought it into the information age as it now stands.\u00a0 Was that a challenge for you and especially with getting this new age technology and incorporating all of that into the dialogue and the structure of the film?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, it\u2019s different.\u00a0 The book was written 10 years ago.\u00a0 Yes, it was a challenge<\/strong>.\u00a0 There was lots of hair pulling out moments.\u00a0 We needed to consult with people.\u00a0 So we consulted with people who work in Secret Service of foreign countries, and people within our own law enforcement.\u00a0 It was really fascinating to get a handle on that.\u00a0 We wanted everything that we attempt in the movie to be feasible; the hacking, being able to turn on peoples\u2019 phones remotely and accessing their microphones.<\/strong>\u00a0 This is all stuff that we have the capability of now and, in fact, people are doing this right now.\u00a0 That\u2019s why if you really want your phone to be off, take the battery out.\u00a0 Of course, with Apple you can\u2019t take the battery out of an Apple.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s very interesting.\u00a0 It was certainly very challenging to bring that all into line.\u00a0 We kept the structure<\/strong> and if you remember in the book, it was more like a Verizon versus an AT&T.\u00a0 It was more about telecommunications and specific technology.\u00a0 Given what we\u2019ve just been through with the legend that was Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, we thought that perhaps they were more relatable figures, if you will, than just anonymous phone companies.<\/strong>\u00a0 We don\u2019t really care about how many packet switches you can process a minute for your data.\u00a0 That would have been not as sexy and exciting as two innovators who are actually making these things and planning to create a huge, if you will, what the NSA has created, a bank of every email, every phone call, everything that is you.<\/strong><\/p>\n

That blew my mind this morning when I saw that on the internet.\u00a0 That was just mind-boggling.\u00a0 And it couldn\u2019t be more timely for the release of the film.<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s entire e-mails.\u00a0 I was just shocked.\u00a0 Someone told me that it was just the phone number but it\u2019s in fact bigger than that.\u00a0 It\u2019s conversation with keywords that are picked out of entire bodies of the internet.\u00a0 Not that I have anything to hide, but it\u2019s just weird.\u00a0 It\u2019s like someone opening the mail.\u00a0 You post a letter to your mom and your mom receives it and it\u2019s been opened.\u00a0 That\u2019s weird.<\/p>\n

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Very interesting aspect of this film is also the dynamic that you have with the paired characters of Nick and Jock and then Adam and Kevin.\u00a0 Adam and Kevin are the younger version of Nick and Jock.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Exactly.\u00a0 One\u2019s the builder.\u00a0 One\u2019s the inventor and thinker.<\/strong><\/p>\n

What is going to keep Adam and Kevin from obsessing on the power that is \u201cthe juice\u201d and becoming Nick and Jock?<\/strong><\/p>\n

This generation has had the opportunity to witness the failure, for the first time, I think, in American history, witness the failure of a generation or two above them, and what the greed caused and what the collapse did to the country.\u00a0<\/strong> Fascinating.\u00a0 Big topic.<\/p>\n

And you do a beautiful job of giving Liam\u2019s character of Adam redemption.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Right.\u00a0 He\u2019s not perfect.\u00a0 He betrays his girlfriend in a horrible, horrible way, but that just shows that as human beings, it\u2019s what we do.\u00a0 Sometimes on our journey, and often when we\u2019re younger and when we\u2019re starting out, we don\u2019t see the consequences or we don\u2019t see the people we\u2019re stepping on or the people we\u2019re hurting on the way up.<\/strong>\u00a0 Just be a little more conscious of that.<\/p>\n

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You have three really great supporting cast members that I can\u2019t think of anyone more perfect for their roles.\u00a0 You\u2019ve got Embeth Davidtz who always has a tone of duplicity to every role she plays.\u00a0 You know something\u2019s coming and it\u2019s probably not good but you never know what it is.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Totally!\u00a0\u00a0 She\u2019s interesting.<\/p>\n

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Julian McMahon, who is just the epitome of his demonic best.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I know.\u00a0 Totally scary.\u00a0 He can be scary.<\/strong>\u00a0 Another Australian, fellow Aussie.<\/p>\n

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And then you\u2019ve got Richard Dreyfus.\u00a0 He is essentially the grounding essence of the film.\u00a0 While everybody is disconnected from humanity and the human touch in order to get connected through technology, his character of Adam\u2019s father Frank will not embrace that.\u00a0 He\u2019s the man who believes in his core that when there\u2019s trouble, you go to the police, you go to the FBI, paper, pencil, pay phone.\u00a0 It\u2019s his common sense that grounds us.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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It\u2019s practical. He\u2019s the voice of reason is a world that sometimes to us appears insane<\/strong>.\u00a0 We all have that one person in our life.\u00a0 It\u2019s usually a parent.\u00a0 It\u2019s usually someone who, like again, someone with foresight whose been able to look at things and assess things.\u00a0 As I get older, I look at things in very different ways.\u00a0 Who I was 10 years ago is radically different to who I am now.\u00a0 Things change.<\/p>\n

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What led you to Dreyfus?\u00a0 Very believable and very perfect casting.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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You\u2019re not gonna believe this but I was watching The Graduate<\/em> and a man walks in and has two lines.\u00a0 Little tiny walk-on role.\u00a0 I\u2019m like, \u201cStop! Was that who think it is?\u00a0 Rewind.\u00a0 That\u2019s RICHARD DREYFUS WITH A WALK-ON!\u00a0 2 lines.\u201d\u00a0 That was fresh in my mind that week.\u00a0 We were talking about who the father could be.\u00a0 We threw out a couple of names and I went, \u201cLet\u2019s add Richard Dreyfus to the list.\u201d\u00a0 For some reason, the name was kind of fresh and up there.\u00a0 And sure enough, he said \u201cyes\u201d.\u00a0<\/strong> I had a conversation with him on the phone.\u00a0 He came on board and off we went.\u00a0 Great guy.\u00a0 Great, fascinating person to sit in between takes and just talk to<\/strong> about the life he\u2019s had and the ups, the downs, the good, the bad, the wives, the scandal,\u00a0 Hollywood, all that stuff.\u00a0 I\u2019m obsessed with Steven Spielberg – in a good, in a healthy way.\u00a0 To have Harrison Ford and Richard Dreyfus who both worked with Spielberg was fascinating so there was lots of questions about spilling some of the secrets.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Just admit it!\u00a0 You were a kid in a candy store.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Oh yeah!\u00a0 TOTALLY a kid in a candy store! I\u2019m like, \u201cREALLY???\u00a0 He would do what?\u201d\u00a0 I will always treasure this experience.<\/p>\n

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You have a great first on this film in that Georgio Armani actually came and helped with production.\u00a0 Armani has never done that before on any film.\u00a0 How did you manage to pull that off?\u00a0 Was it because of Harrison\u2019s long relationship with Armani as his clothier?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Armani did one of the sets.\u00a0 And the clothes.<\/strong>\u00a0 Even though the scene doesn\u2019t involve Harrison at all, I think perhaps that was one of the reasons, but also my producer, Alexandra Milchan was very focused on saving as much of the budget as we could.\u00a0 We very seriously looked for a partner, not just like \u201cgive me a chair or a lamp.\u00a0 I want a significant partner who can come in.\u00a0 We have this amazing space to decorate, so let\u2019s show your things and I\u2019ll shoot them in a beautiful way.\u201d\u00a0 <\/strong>Us filmmakers that don\u2019t have unlimited resources, we have to find ways to make each dollar look like $20.<\/p>\n

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Only $20?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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[laughing] Actually, $100.<\/p>\n

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What did you personally take away from this experience or learn about yourself in the process of making PARANOIA?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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How much I love actors!\u00a0 How much I really love talking to them, being with them.\u00a0 Because when they\u2019re all firing and we\u2019re all on the same page, it\u2019s actually a wonderful experience. It\u2019s creative, it\u2019s rich, it\u2019s fun.\u00a0 <\/strong>When you work with someone who\u2019s very rogue or upset with their life or not in a good space, it\u2019s a different experience.\u00a0 I just feel very rejuvenated.\u00a0 Faith restored!<\/p>\n

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With that restoration of faith, as we all get to have with Adam in the film, what\u2019s the greatest gift that filmmaking gives to you?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Opportunity to see the world.\u00a0 If it wasn\u2019t for filmmaking I don\u2019t think I would have seen a fraction of the most incredible parts of the world, and in a very privileged way.\u00a0 That\u2019s the greatest thing that filmmaking has given me.\u00a0 It\u2019s allowed me to become an adventurer of planet Earth and to experience things.\u00a0<\/strong> I\u2019ve met such great people.\u00a0 Legends that I never thought I\u2019d meet.<\/p>\n

\"Paranoia<\/p>\n

You got three of \u2018em rocking in this film.\u00a0 And you did what many thought was impossible.\u00a0 You reteamed Oldman and Ford.\u00a0 The last time we saw them together, Harrison threw Gary out of his airplane.\u00a0 Now Gary got to throw him out of his office.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I know!\u00a0 That was 20 years of pent-up GRRRRR between the<\/strong>m.\u00a0 That was really cool.\u00a0 Harrison and I really bonded because we\u2019re both jet pilots.\u00a0 We both like to fly planes.<\/strong>\u00a0 The first time I met Harrison was at his hanger in Santa Monica.\u00a0 This beautiful, 13 aircraft, all in mint condition.\u00a0 Literally, my jaw just hit the ground.\u00a0 I was like, \u201cYOU are gonna be fun, sir!\u00a0 We\u2019re gonna have fun.\u201d\u00a0 I remember saying that.\u00a0 And that\u2019s what we did.<\/p>\n

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He could have helped cut down on the budget by volunteering to fly everybody [laughing].<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Oh, he did!\u00a0 He fly, my producers and a group of us to NYC from Philadelphia to do a little shoot of Jock in his office.\u00a0<\/strong> So he did contribute.\u00a0 He\u2019s a good guy.<\/p>\n

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I love that!\u00a0\u00a0 So, what do you have coming up next?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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I\u2019m thinking about two projects – a thriller set in Moscow and then a film about the underbelly of crime in NYC.\u00a0 It\u2019s really a very very interesting piece.<\/p>\n

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At least you know that the underbelly of crime in NYC, if you need to, go back to Philadelphia, it will double for NYC and you\u2019ll get the great tax incentives!<\/strong><\/p>\n

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There you go!\u00a0 I love Philadelphia.\u00a0 I really enjoyed it.\u00a0 I actually miss it.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\"Arbor<\/p>\n

How did you manage to find and get the Arbor Hill Estate, by the way?<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Harrison said earlier that he wasn\u2019t there, but he was.\u00a0 The stone fortress<\/strong>.\u00a0 We were looking for what would be a training facility.\u00a0 What could be that?\u00a0 This was the last location.\u00a0 It was the hardest location to find.<\/strong>\u00a0 There are some incredible properties there.\u00a0 Beautiful.\u00a0 We were looking at photos, we were looking at Larry Korman\u2019s house.\u00a0 I\u2019m not sure how it went, whether he suggested it, but we heard that there was this house on the market.\u00a0 It was very fortress-like and very iconic and somewhat imposing.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t scream warmth when you see it.\u00a0 We went out to it and just as we were coming up the driveway I said, \u201cThis is it!\u201d\u00a0 You know straightaway when you see it.\u00a0 That\u2019s how we found it.\u00a0 It was one of the last to come together.\u00a0 It was very very complex.<\/strong>\u00a0 It still had people living inside it and we had to move them out and do whatever it was we were going to do.\u00a0 And there were a lot of expensive things in the house.\u00a0 And you know a film crew – we\u2019re like bulls in a teacup when we arrive!!<\/p>\n

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It\u2019s so perfect for the film.\u00a0 That stone fortress and the character of Jock.\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n

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And then we had to get permission to land a helicopter.\u00a0 That was a whole other thing! [laughing]<\/p>\n

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