{"id":43293,"date":"2026-09-29T17:31:43","date_gmt":"2026-09-30T00:31:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/?p=43293"},"modified":"2026-09-29T17:31:43","modified_gmt":"2026-09-30T00:31:43","slug":"sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/","title":{"rendered":"SUNIL PERKASH &#038; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION &#8211; Exclusive Interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-43330\" src=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png 640w, https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo-400x182.png 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>There are words. There are silences. There are gestures and glances, sounds and vibrations, colors and shadows, things remembered and things perhaps misremembered. And then there are all those infinitesimal moments in between, where what isn&#8217;t said may communicate far more than anything that is.<\/p>\n<p>That is the language of ORION.<\/p>\n<p>Directed by Jaco Bouwer from a screenplay by Anne Vithayathil, ORION stars Drew Van Acker as Apollo, the sole surviving astronaut of a disastrous mission who returns with no memory of what happened to his crew. Working with an interrogator named Jim Lee, played by Andrew McCarthy, Apollo must attempt to recover those memories and determine what happened during the mission\u2014and what may have returned with him.<\/p>\n<p>To say much more would rob ORION of one of its greatest pleasures. This is a film that wants you to question what you see, what you hear, what you remember and what you think you know. It is a puzzle designed not merely to be solved, but reconsidered.<\/p>\n<p>And it is the first film producers Sunil Perkash and Drew Van Acker have developed together entirely from the ground up.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash and I have spoken before. Van Acker and I had once, almost seven years ago. But when the opportunity arose to speak with the filmmakers about ORION, there was never any question in my mind that these were the two people I wanted\u2014and, unusually for me, I wanted them together.<\/p>\n<p>As Perkash laughingly notes, severing the proverbial hip joining the two men has proved impossible.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d he says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.<\/p>\n<p><strong>A LANGUAGE WITHOUT WORDS<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Among the many striking elements of ORION is the paradox at its center. This is a film deeply concerned with language and communication, yet some of its most eloquent communication occurs without a word being spoken.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker spends much of the film opposite McCarthy, two men in a room talking. In less assured hands, the inherent visual limitations of that construction could prove deadly. Van Acker rejects the notion that conversation itself is cinematically boring.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think it\u2019s only boring if there\u2019s boring people or they\u2019re talking about boring subjects,\u201d he says. More importantly, \u201ca lot of what we talk about and what we\u2019re doing in the film is communicating without saying words, even though the words [are] the whole gist of what we\u2019re trying to get across.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>That distinction is crucial.<\/p>\n<p>ORION is a film about communication that communicates most powerfully without words.<\/p>\n<p>There is observational silence. Deliberate movement. Hesitation. A shift of the eyes. The slightest change in posture. Bouwer allows the camera to watch those moments rather than rush past them, making everything unsaid part of the conversation between the film and the audience.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker&#8217;s connection to that idea is intensely personal. During the film&#8217;s development, he was going through what he calls a period of \u201cself-discovery,\u201d examining who he was, what made him tick and how he could grow. He and Perkash had also spent considerable time discussing truth, reality and perception.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOne thing I&#8217;ve grown to learn is that\u2014and this is kind of what the takeaway of the movie for me is\u2014is that there can be multiple truths at the same time,\u201d Van Acker explains. \u201cIt doesn&#8217;t mean one is correct or one is incorrect, or right versus wrong. You can be living your truth and I can be living mine.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Van Acker, cinema provides a way of exploring those different perceptions and, potentially, encouraging empathy without climbing onto a podium to lecture an audience.<\/p>\n<p>ORION doesn&#8217;t lecture.\u00a0 It observes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WHEN SOUND BECOMES LANGUAGE<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>And it listens.<\/p>\n<p>Sound is not an accessory in ORION. It is another language.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to the film&#8217;s varying timbres and decibel levels, its unfamiliar tones and vibrations, its carefully layered sonic textures and, equally important, the spaces where composer Pierre-Henri Wicomb&#8217;s restrained score steps aside and allows sound itself to carry the experience.\u00a0 Re-recording mixer Ron Prent and sound editor Thomas James create a sonic environment that can be felt as much as heard.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker understands that distinction instinctively.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI am very visceral,\u201d he says of his own moviegoing experience, citing <em>INTERSTELLAR<\/em> and particularly the physical effect of its sound. \u201cThe one thing I remember most from that movie was the way that the sound made me feel\u2014the vibrations&#8230;the tones that he would use. It just moved me in a way that sometimes the visual doesn&#8217;t.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Perkash is particularly proud that ORION was shot and completed in Syracuse, including its post-production work. At the end of the sound mix, he recalls Prent telling him that working on the film had been \u201cone of the greatest pleasures\u201d he&#8217;d experienced and had profoundly moved him.<\/p>\n<p>For Perkash, that reaction gets to the heart of independent filmmaking. Limited resources require more than technical proficiency; they require artists who care deeply about what they&#8217;re creating.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou do something people love what they&#8217;re working on because you&#8217;re not paying a lot,\u201d he says. \u201cYou have a budget you&#8217;re working with.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And Bouwer layers yet another form of communication into the film through a small detail Perkash gleefully identifies as an Easter egg: at one point Apollo uses an instrument associated with those who cannot hear, signing into it to generate sound.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCreating even different layers of communication,\u201d Perkash says.\u00a0 Precisely.<\/p>\n<p>In ORION, sound is never simply sound. Silence is never merely the absence of it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>$100 MILLION, $100 AND HUMAN INGENUITY<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The same philosophy extends to the film&#8217;s visual world.<\/p>\n<p>Production designer Mike Conte and Bouwer designed the sets from scratch, with the production built and shot onstage in Syracuse. According to Perkash, Conte digitally mapped the stage and knew its specifications down to the smallest detail. Working outside Manhattan also stretched the film&#8217;s resources dramatically; Perkash says comparable production design there could have cost twice as much.<\/p>\n<p>And then there were the favors.\u00a0 Even the sleek furnishings, Perkash reveals with delight, were designer knockoffs.<\/p>\n<p>But Van Acker sees the film&#8217;s limited resources as a creative advantage rather than an artistic handicap.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIf I say to somebody on the street, \u2018Here&#8217;s $100 million, go make something creative,\u2019 I virtually would say to you that anybody you stop could do that,\u201d he says. \u201cBut if I said, \u2018Here&#8217;s $100, go make me something insanely creative and unique,\u2019 I don&#8217;t think a lot of people could do that.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0One day on set crystallized that philosophy.<\/p>\n<p>Faced with budget and visual-effects concerns over a particular shot, cinematographer David Kruta and Bouwer disappeared. Roughly half an hour later, they returned with an improvised solution involving a battery pack beneath a table, vibrating sand and flickering light.<\/p>\n<p>Cost: essentially nothing.<\/p>\n<p>Effect: precisely what they needed.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cNo one would know the difference,\u201d Van Acker says.<\/p>\n<p>The production also used no AI, something he is particularly proud of. What ORION relied upon instead was something increasingly precious: human ingenuity.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash puts it plainly. They wanted to use \u201cthe art of filmmaking to tell a story versus just throwing money\u201d at it.<\/p>\n<p>Having worked on studio pictures, including <em>Salt<\/em>, he has a rather useful unit of measurement for the difference.\u00a0 \u201cOne day on <em>Salt<\/em> was the budget of our entire film.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Necessity may be the mother of invention, but invention still requires people capable of answering necessity. Perkash and Van Acker surrounded themselves with those people.<\/p>\n<p><strong>LIVING BEHIND APOLLO&#8217;S EYES<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One of those crucial creative relationships was between Bouwer and Van Acker.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker is onscreen for the overwhelming majority of ORION, much of it within confined spaces. Before McCarthy and Debby Ryan arrived, Van Acker and Bouwer came in a week early and blocked every scene.<\/p>\n<p>For Perkash, that advance work gave the production an enormous head start. Bouwer already had an unusually complete vision of the film. His original lookbook, Perkash recalls, bears an uncanny resemblance to what eventually appeared onscreen.<\/p>\n<p>For Van Acker, however, the preparation involved something even more delicate: determining exactly how much Apollo should communicate at any given moment.\u00a0 An actor knows the entire screenplay. The character does not.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou have to try and live each moment as if you don&#8217;t know where the future is going,\u201d Van Acker explains.<\/p>\n<p>He and Bouwer divided Apollo&#8217;s journey into three or four sections and calibrated the performance accordingly. How much should appear behind the eyes? Was a flicker suggesting too much? Too little? Should a moment be pulled back or pushed farther?\u00a0 The objective wasn&#8217;t to choreograph a performance into sterility. In fact, Van Acker says they deliberately concentrated on beats rather than endlessly discussing \u201cperformance.\u201d\u00a0 That distinction becomes especially important within a contained environment. Neither actor nor camera can simply wander around a room to manufacture activity. Every movement has to mean something.<\/p>\n<p>And sometimes an annoyance becomes an asset.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker wore a contact lens that, he admits, drove him crazy. Rather than fight the irritation, he and Bouwer incorporated the tiny involuntary flickers it produced into Apollo.\u00a0 \u201cWe wanted to use that for the performance.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Kruta&#8217;s camera is close enough for us to see it.\u00a0 Sometimes extraordinarily close.<\/p>\n<p>The macros and extreme close-ups throughout ORION turn eyes, skin, objects and tiny physical responses into landscapes. We are given enormous visual detail while simultaneously being denied the wider context that might explain it. More detail. Less information.\u00a0 And that makes Van Acker&#8217;s extraordinarily internal performance essential. Apollo cannot hide from Kruta&#8217;s lens. Neither can Van Acker.\u00a0 Every blink can become dialogue.<\/p>\n<p><strong>WHAT LIVES IN THE BLACK<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Contained filmmaking also demands that every inch of the frame earn its place.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash and Van Acker credit Bouwer&#8217;s background in South African theater with helping shape his extraordinary sensitivity to texture, space and color. And one of ORION&#8217;s most powerful visual choices is barely a \u201cthing\u201d at all.\u00a0 It is blackness.<\/p>\n<p>During scenes involving Debby Ryan&#8217;s Mary, the darkness surrounding her isn&#8217;t blue-black or textured darkness that permits the eye to search for reassuring environmental information. It is absolute, flattened black. Ryan seems suspended within nothingness.\u00a0 Negative space becomes psychological space.\u00a0 The eye sees nothing, so the imagination supplies everything.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker sees production design of that kind as an enormous gift to an actor because the environment itself begins doing dramatic work. Perkash describes Bouwer as obsessive about colors and textures, someone who \u201clives inside the world\u201d of the film.<\/p>\n<p>That precision becomes particularly striking because ORION carefully controls when color is permitted into that world.\u00a0 The central environment is dominated by gray concrete and deprivation. Against that austerity, objects possessing color acquire disproportionate significance. A Russian nesting doll, for example, immediately demands attention simply because it refuses to disappear into the surrounding gray.\u00a0 Then the film&#8217;s flashbacks introduce a radically different visual vocabulary\u2014brighter light, warmer flesh tones, richer color.<\/p>\n<p>And Perkash drops one extraordinary piece of cinematographic information: according to him, &#8220;our DP used the original lenses that were used to shoot <em>Solaris<\/em> for those flashbacks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Whether a memory can be trusted is a question ORION reserves for its audience.<\/p>\n<p>But the image itself has already told us that we&#8217;ve entered another language.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PRODUCER INSIDE. PRODUCER OUTSIDE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Van Acker&#8217;s relationship with ORION is unusual because Apollo occupies so much of the film while the actor playing him is also one of its producers.<\/p>\n<p>Can he ever actually remove that producer&#8217;s hat when the camera rolls?\u00a0 \u201cYes and no.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I wouldn&#8217;t be able to do that on my own but but it&#8217;s one of those things where if I had a lot of dialog, and there&#8217;s a lot of layers to Apollo and I take what I do very seriously, there&#8217;s that point where the emails are firing in&#8230;we lost the location, or we lost the lighting, or the air conditioning has broke down, or where&#8217;s the money for this.\u00a0 And I would say to Sunil, as much as I do care about this,\u00a0 I have, you know, eight pages I gotta focus on.\u00a0 Is there a way you can just like blind &#8216;cc&#8217; me, or I have to like mute my emails or something?\u00a0 So we had a little bit of a formula where I could just not be a part of all that, and Sunil being Sunil would just kind of feather in little details that he felt like I needed to to be a part of. But outside of that, he would kind of keep me in the dark with things that he knew I&#8217;m not as good at as he is.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When Van Acker needed to concentrate on Apollo, Perkash became his firewall, filtering the production noise and passing along only those things his partner genuinely needed to know.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker readily admits that Perkash handles the \u201cpressure cooker\u201d of physical production better than he currently does. Perkash, in turn, understands Van Acker well enough to know what information to let through and what to keep away.<\/p>\n<p>Listening to them describe the process, I realized something.\u00a0 The two men had developed their own language.\u00a0 Information simply seemed to pass between them almost through osmosis.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou&#8217;re absolutely right,\u201d Van Acker says when I put that proposition to him. \u201cWhatever the dynamic is, it seems to&#8230;find a way to work.\u201d\u00a0 Perkash describes it as a \u201cweird synergy.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Drew is inside the film.\u00a0 Sunil is outside the film.\u00a0 And each has a vantage point the other doesn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean producer Van Acker completely disappears. Perkash remembers discussions about the inability to afford a snow machine and the decision to create the required snow digitally.\u00a0 Then Van Acker saw the finished effect.\u00a0 \u201cWe should have gotten a snow machine.\u201d\u00a0 Some languages apparently include &#8220;I told you we should have spent the money.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cI CAN TRUST THIS PERSON WITH WHERE MY HEART IS\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The shorthand wasn&#8217;t created on ORION.<\/p>\n<p>It began nine years ago on <em>LIFELIKE<\/em>, when Perkash was producing and Van Acker was starring. They didn&#8217;t know one another.<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker soon discovered, however, that he kept going to the producer to discuss things actors don&#8217;t necessarily bring to a producer: character, story and creative choices.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash had the filmmaking knowledge and experience Van Acker expected from a producer, but something else surprised him. He found someone whose interest in the art wasn&#8217;t secondary to the financing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHe had such a vast knowledge of film and also experience, but then also a deep care and passion for the art and the creativity versus the financial side of producing,\u201d Van Acker recalls.\u00a0 For him, Perkash was \u201ca creative first.\u201d\u00a0 And that led to something considerably more important than shared taste.\u00a0 Trust.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI can trust this person with where my heart is on the creativity side.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Their collaboration continued through <a href=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/reviews\/movies\/spy-intervention-is-one-fresh-and-fun-film\/\"><strong><em>SPY INTERVENTION<\/em><\/strong><\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/boots-on-the-ground-producer-sunil-perkash-goes-in-depth-on-the-making-of-last-survivors-exclusive-interview\/\"><strong><em>LAST SURVIVORS<\/em><\/strong><\/a>, eventually bringing them to ORION and the partnership they have today.<\/p>\n<p>The friendship?<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker pauses.\u00a0 \u201cI&#8217;m still working on it.\u201d\u00a0 There it is.\u00a0 Nine years of trust destroyed in four words.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash, somehow recovering from the hilarity of this emotional devastation, points to the things they actually share: a love of movies, interesting conversations, food, cocktails and a determination to keep raising the creative bar.\u00a0 \u201cBoth of our jobs [are] to keep the other&#8230;pushing each other to be the best we can be.\u201d\u00a0 The dinners and cocktails probably don&#8217;t hurt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RAISING THE BAR<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ORION isn&#8217;t intended as a one-off experiment.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash and Van Acker have multiple projects in development, including several they are building from scratch. They also recently wrapped <em>CAROLINE<\/em>, a project that came to them rather than originating with them, but which they quickly embraced.\u00a0 What matters isn&#8217;t adherence to a single development model. It&#8217;s the kind of film they want their partnership to represent.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want to just be doing things that nobody else is doing,\u201d Perkash says.<\/p>\n<p>During development, they heard suggestions that ORION should lean harder into horror.\u00a0 They resisted.\u00a0 \u201cEveryone else is doing horror.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Perkash has encountered versions of that pressure before. He points to <em>ENCHANTED<\/em> and <em>SALT<\/em> from his studio years\u2014films whose concepts resisted easy conventional wisdom\u2014as examples of the creative risks that interest him. Independent filmmaking now offers him and Van Acker an opportunity to pursue similarly unconventional ideas on their own terms.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe want to build this brand and build films that are eventually a little bit bigger, but keep that unique quality to them,\u201d he says. \u201cWe just want to be different. Explore ideas and thematics that interest us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>For Van Acker, that process has become more than an extension of acting.\u00a0 It may be where his heart lies.<\/p>\n<p>He loves developing material. He loves finding directors, watching their work, determining whether a filmmaker is right for a particular project, talking casting, financing and budgets, and then watching all those disparate pieces gradually become a movie.\u00a0 He has no intention of abandoning acting. Other roles continue to interest him, particularly those that take him into unexplored territory. But producing gives him something different: the opportunity to participate in the entire act of creation.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI really, really enjoy the process of watching it all unfold and being a reason that it all unfolds&#8230;from top to bottom.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>THE JIGSAW<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Perkash calls ORION a \u201cjigsaw puzzle.\u201d\u00a0 That&#8217;s apt, but perhaps incomplete.<\/p>\n<p>A conventional puzzle rewards you when the pieces finally lock into their designated positions. ORION is more mischievous. Even as pieces begin fitting together, it keeps asking whether you have been looking at them correctly in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>Bouwer and Kruta deliberately withhold establishing information. Extreme close-ups show the effect of an event on objects within a room without necessarily giving us the geography we instinctively want. Frames rotate. Angles destabilize. Space becomes difficult to read.\u00a0 And Van Acker delights in the questions that creates.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhy is there an earthquake? What is this? Is it an earthquake? How far down are they? Are they on the surface? What country are they in? What planet are they in? Is this even an earthquake?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Perkash returns again to one of the ideas that has fascinated him across his work:\u00a0 \u201cWhat is reality? What is truth?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Van Acker talks about the possibility of two truths existing simultaneously.\u00a0 Perkash takes it one step further.\u00a0 \u201cSometimes none of the truths are truths. It&#8217;s all false.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Which is why ORION is designed not only to sustain a first viewing but invite another.<\/p>\n<p>Perkash believes the performances by Van Acker, Ryan and McCarthy reveal additional nuances once the audience possesses information it didn&#8217;t have the first time. Van Acker has already heard about viewers discovering small character \u201cEaster eggs\u201d on a subsequent viewing.<\/p>\n<p>Nothing needs to be shouted.\u00a0 The information was there.\u00a0 You simply didn&#8217;t know how to read it yet.\u00a0\u00a0And perhaps that&#8217;s the most fitting achievement for the first film Sunil Perkash and Drew Van Acker have built together from nothing.<\/p>\n<p>For nine years, the two men have been developing a creative shorthand founded on trust. One knows when to push. One knows when to shield. One works from inside; the other can see from outside. They argue, joke, eat, drink, develop, produce and apparently remain incapable of severing that troublesome hip.<\/p>\n<p>Together they made a film fascinated by the inadequacy of words.<\/p>\n<p>A film in which an eye can speak.\u00a0 Blackness can speak.\u00a0 Color can speak.\u00a0 A vibration can speak.\u00a0 Silence can speak.<\/p>\n<p>And perhaps ORION works because the two men who developed it already understood something fundamental about communication:\u00a0 Sometimes the people who understand each other best don&#8217;t need to say very much at all.<\/p>\n<p>by debbie elias, exclusive interview 09\/23\/2026<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em><strong>ORION is exclusively in theatres on October 2, 2026.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><code><iframe title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/XZi6ekNNsqA?si=IXfMjmZfiMz8pomJ\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/code><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d  For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":43330,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3626],"tags":[12699,7926,1489,12701,12700,12698,629,1459,9732],"class_list":["post-43293","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interview-exclusives","tag-debby-ryan","tag-drew-van-acker","tag-exclusive-interview","tag-jaco-bouwer","tag-orion","tag-orion-movie","tag-psychological-thriller","tag-sci-fi-thriller","tag-sunil-perkash"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v28.5 (Yoast SEO v28.5) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>SUNIL PERKASH &amp; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview - Behind The Lens Online<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"SUNIL PERKASH &amp; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Behind The Lens Online\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"640\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"291\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/png\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"debbie lynn elias\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"debbie lynn elias\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"15 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"debbie lynn elias\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/2d9b602095eb0ce3d363efb75ad0b5d4\"},\"headline\":\"SUNIL PERKASH &#038; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION &#8211; Exclusive Interview\",\"datePublished\":\"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/\"},\"wordCount\":3371,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#organization\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/09\\\/orion-logo.png\",\"keywords\":[\"debby ryan\",\"drew van acker\",\"exclusive interview\",\"jaco bouwer\",\"Orion\",\"Orion movie\",\"psychological thriller\",\"sci-fi thriller\",\"sunil perkash\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Interview Exclusives\"],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/\",\"name\":\"SUNIL PERKASH & DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview - Behind The Lens Online\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#website\"},\"primaryImageOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#primaryimage\"},\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/09\\\/orion-logo.png\",\"datePublished\":\"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00\",\"description\":\"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#primaryimage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/09\\\/orion-logo.png\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2026\\\/09\\\/orion-logo.png\",\"width\":640,\"height\":291},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/interviews\\\/interview-exclusives\\\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\\\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"SUNIL PERKASH &#038; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION &#8211; Exclusive Interview\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/\",\"name\":\"Behind The Lens Online\",\"description\":\"a division of elias entertainment network\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#organization\"},\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":{\"@type\":\"PropertyValueSpecification\",\"valueRequired\":true,\"valueName\":\"search_term_string\"}}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Behind the Lens\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/\",\"logo\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2015\\\/01\\\/behind-the-lens.jpg\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2015\\\/01\\\/behind-the-lens.jpg\",\"width\":600,\"height\":748,\"caption\":\"Behind the Lens\"},\"image\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/logo\\\/image\\\/\"}},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/behindthelensonline.net\\\/site\\\/#\\\/schema\\\/person\\\/2d9b602095eb0ce3d363efb75ad0b5d4\",\"name\":\"debbie lynn elias\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/secure.gravatar.com\\\/avatar\\\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g\",\"caption\":\"debbie lynn elias\"}}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO Premium plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"SUNIL PERKASH & DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview - Behind The Lens Online","description":"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"SUNIL PERKASH & DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview","og_description":"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.","og_url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/","og_site_name":"Behind The Lens Online","article_published_time":"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00","og_image":[{"width":640,"height":291,"url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png","type":"image\/png"}],"author":"debbie lynn elias","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"debbie lynn elias","Est. reading time":"15 minutes"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#article","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/"},"author":{"name":"debbie lynn elias","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#\/schema\/person\/2d9b602095eb0ce3d363efb75ad0b5d4"},"headline":"SUNIL PERKASH &#038; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION &#8211; Exclusive Interview","datePublished":"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/"},"wordCount":3371,"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#organization"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png","keywords":["debby ryan","drew van acker","exclusive interview","jaco bouwer","Orion","Orion movie","psychological thriller","sci-fi thriller","sunil perkash"],"articleSection":["Interview Exclusives"],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/","url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/","name":"SUNIL PERKASH & DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION - Exclusive Interview - Behind The Lens Online","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#website"},"primaryImageOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#primaryimage"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#primaryimage"},"thumbnailUrl":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png","datePublished":"2026-09-30T00:31:43+00:00","description":"\u201cIt\u2019s been nine years,\u201d Perkash says of their partnership. \u201cThis is the first one we developed from scratch, from the beginning, from zero to realization.\u201d For For Van Acker, that makes ORION \u201cour baby.\u201d\u00a0 And what a baby it is.","breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/"]}]},{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#primaryimage","url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png","contentUrl":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/09\/orion-logo.png","width":640,"height":291},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/interviews\/interview-exclusives\/sunil-perkash-drew-van-acker-interview-orion\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"SUNIL PERKASH &#038; DREW VAN ACKER: Finding The Language of ORION &#8211; Exclusive Interview"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#website","url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/","name":"Behind The Lens Online","description":"a division of elias entertainment network","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#organization"},"potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":{"@type":"PropertyValueSpecification","valueRequired":true,"valueName":"search_term_string"}}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#organization","name":"Behind the Lens","url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/behind-the-lens.jpg","contentUrl":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/01\/behind-the-lens.jpg","width":600,"height":748,"caption":"Behind the Lens"},"image":{"@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#\/schema\/logo\/image\/"}},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/#\/schema\/person\/2d9b602095eb0ce3d363efb75ad0b5d4","name":"debbie lynn elias","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/5a60e3b15ca5d6738c95ea65bba59991c6f773c3bd70c951668c9dcbdc66b12f?s=96&d=mm&r=g","caption":"debbie lynn elias"}}]}},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43293","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43293"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43293\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43336,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43293\/revisions\/43336"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/43330"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43293"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43293"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/behindthelensonline.net\/site\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43293"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}